Curative CEO Fred Turner: Why Your Next Hire is an 'Agent Supervisor'
Curative CEO Fred Turner cut $600K from Salesforce and 80% of SaaS with AI. He explains why companies will shrink, humans will manage AI, and UBI is coming.
We Built Our Own Salesforce in Months. Here's Why We're Cancelling the $600K Contract | Curative CEO
With Harry Stebbings, Fred Turner · Sunday, July 19, 2026
Fred Turner, CEO of Curative, shares the incredible journey of scaling a COVID testing business to $5 billion in revenue before pivoting to health insurance, now valued at $1.3 billion. He dives into Curative's aggressive adoption of AI, claiming an 80% reduction in SaaS spend, including the cancellation of a $600,000 Salesforce contract, and discusses the broader implications for the future of work and the US healthcare system.
AI Killed Our $600K Salesforce: Curative's CEO Explains
Curative CEO Fred Turner reveals how AI replaced their $600K Salesforce contract in 2 months, cutting 80% of SaaS spend. Learn their single-use AI script method.
Fred Turner: Why Obamacare's Profit Cap *Increases* Healthcare Costs
Curative CEO Fred Turner reveals how US healthcare's consolidated payers and a seemingly good Obamacare rule create perverse incentives that inflate costs.