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Tony Fadell: How to build real taste (and why AI makes it matter more)

With Lenny Rachitsky, Tony Fadell · Sunday, June 7, 2026

Tony Fadell, co-creator of the iPod, iPhone, and Nest, discusses the principles of building great products, from ideation using "pain and new technology" to the "three generations" rule for market success. He emphasizes the critical role of opinion-based leadership, the specific type of micromanagement needed for 1.0 products, and the often-underestimated importance of marketing and storytelling in bringing products to customers. Fadell also shares his vision for the future of AI devices, arguing for voice-first interfaces while maintaining the necessity of screens, and concludes with a call for ethical considerations in product design to combat tech addiction.