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The world of voice AI, with Mati Staniszewski of ElevenLabs

With John Collison, Mati Staniszewski · Sunday, April 19, 2026

ElevenLabs co-founder Mati Staniszewski joins Stripe co-founder John Collison to discuss how modern voice AI models operate, the architectural debate between cascaded and end-to-end speech-to-speech systems, and why conversational voice has lagged behind text LLMs. Staniszewski also shares details on ElevenLabs' rapid growth past $450 million in ARR, their $11 billion valuation, and how AI-native organizations structure flat teams with embedded technical resources.

Key takeaways

  • ElevenLabs reached a valuation of $11 billion and crossed $450 million in annual recurring revenue with a team of 470 people. Read more →
  • ElevenLabs scaled past $450 million in ARR and an $11 billion valuation by committing to cascaded voice pipelines instead of unified speech-to-speech models. Read more →
  • Text models passed the conversational Turing test years ago, but voice models struggle with the physics of real-time speech orchestration. Read more →
  • ElevenLabs passed a $450 million annual run rate and raised $500 million at an $11 billion valuation after an inflection in voice agent reliability. Read more →
  • ElevenLabs scaled past $450 million in annual recurring revenue and reached an $11 billion valuation by moving away from hard-coded acoustic rules. Read more →

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