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Patrick McKenzie argues that AI data centers operate as constant power consumers because hardware depreciation runs 5 to 10 times higher than electricity expenses. Idle silicon loses substantial monetary value every hour, forcing these facilities to run continuously.
Nuclear reactors halt fission chain reactions in seconds, but residual steam keeps turbines generating power for hours.
“You can turn off a nuclear reaction in an order of seconds, but the steam produced by your reactor, which turns the turbines to generate power, will continue being hot due to its own energy and remaining energy in the system for a few hours.”
From Patrick McKenzie on Power Grids: Why Dynamic Load Dictates Costs
Bitcoin operators balance hardware decay against energy costs to profit from generating specific random numbers.
“Bitcoin miners are in the business of pitting electronics depreciation and electricity consumption against each other to win a tournament in generating random numbers with mystical properties.”
Peaker power plants maintain economic viability even when they operate for only a few weeks each year.
“Finally, there are peaker plants, which spend most of their time off and economically justify themselves by keeping society running for a few hours every day and, in some cases, only a few weeks out of every year.”
From Patrick McKenzie on Power Grids: Why Dynamic Load Dictates Costs
The expense of AI inference stems primarily from high hardware depreciation. This financial dynamic forces facilities running expensive chips to consume power 24 hours a day.
“Why do you expect AI data centers to run 24/7, where you don't expect that necessarily from crypto miners? It's because the expense associated with doing AI inference is mostly depreciation on the chips and not electricity.”
Almost all power gets consumed at the exact moment of generation. Grid operators balance this immediate demand against physical generation processes that require hours to spin up or shut down.
“…the supermajority of all electricity is consumed approximately contemporaneously with being generated.”
From Patrick McKenzie on Power Grids: Why Dynamic Load Dictates Costs
“The physical processes required to generate electricity frequently require hours of time to spin up or spin down. These are fundamentally incompatible time scales, and yet we somehow make it work anyway.”
From Patrick McKenzie on Power Grids: Why Dynamic Load Dictates Costs
Fully capitalized power plants often lose their local industrial customers. Companies like CoreWeave historically solved this by placing hardware at generation sites to rent GPUs to cryptocurrency miners.
“The capex, heavy in most generation businesses, has been paid, and if you put in opex you will get electricity out, but useless without a local-ish consumer of a large block of electricity.”
“CoreWeave originally started renting out I believe GPUs to Ethereum miners with the idea that Ethereum was also going to take off and become a large business in the vein of Bitcoin as some sort of global worldwide computer.”
“If you draw a line around 20,000 MW, you will see that Tokyo has a certain level of work per second required to sustain civilization…”
From Patrick McKenzie on Power Grids: Why Dynamic Load Dictates Costs
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