Muse Wonder: Zuckerberg and Wang's $100B AI
Mark Zuckerberg and Alexandr Wang join host John Collison to discuss Meta's launch of Muse Wonder, its frontier agentic AI model. They explore the creation and culture of Meta Superintelligence Labs, the staggering capital expenditures behind multi-gigawatt compute clusters, and the architectural shifts toward active memory and multimodal perception. The conversation also details the future of agentic commerce, smart glasses form factors, and why open competition prevents a winner-take-all AI monopoly.
- Mark Zuckerberg created an Instacart account specifically for Meta's Muse model, using it once or twice a week to invent baking recipes and order ingredients with his daughter Aurelia. Read →
- After hitting internal stalls on Llama 4, Mark Zuckerberg rebooted Meta's AI organization and put Alexandr Wang in charge of Meta Superintelligence Labs. Read →
- Mark Zuckerberg predicts smart glasses will not feature a traditional app store; instead, models will generate interfaces on the fly inside the user's field of vision. Read →